My mother was a wreck and my father was very often not there.

[Laughs] I would say that I'm always very concerned about

money and working very hard providing

because that was always my concern.

Twelve or 13, all of a sudden, you know,

I was in a private high school, I was this...

Are these things that, am I going to have to leave the school?

Am I going to have to leave this house?

Am I going to have to...

All these things that when you're 12 and 13 are a given,

that you don't have to worry, were things that,

all of sudden, I was worrying about.

And making a backup plan.

So, my backup plan then was, "Well, if we lose the house

we can go here, we can move in with my grandparents."

But just something in the back of my head,

that was my security.

I didn't have, I didn't have any, you know, there was no,

"I can lean on my father," or, "I can lean on my mother."

My mother was a wreck constantly,

and my father was very often not there.

So for me, putting in these little security blankets of,

"Well, there's somewhere for me to fall back on,

there's something for me to,

some way that I know we'll survive,"

that's something, to this very day, that,

"Well, no matter what happens,

I can go, I can bartend over here,

I can go wait tables over here, I can…"

Very often, I've got two jobs because it's better to have

a little bit of extra money than it is to not have, you know,

maybe not quite enough or just enough to get by.

So it's, there are certain things that, as I said,

they inform what I've done with the rest of my life.