Joining the Navy really helped me come out of myself.

I think I was just too
young and too immature,

and I think I was just ready for a change,

and I needed some really good stability.

I got a lot of comradery.

I was a very...

I was a loner when,

you know, during high
school and my younger years,

and joining the Navy really
helped me come out of myself

and to try to make
friends and acquaintances,

and I think maybe sometimes
that's what got me in trouble.