I was thinking these Veterans who had PTSD were just using it as a cop out...it's not true.

I mean, I just thought it was, it was me.

I mean, everybody has problems, so...

In fact for a long time,

up until, again, I retired and realized,

I was at times thinking these Veterans who had PTSD,

they were just using it as a cop-out

because I was functioning.

And then I realized that's really not true.

Looking in retrospect after getting treatment,

I can see where, in my early life,

in my working career and what not, I had a problem.

That was after learning what was causing it and what happened.